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Wednesday, April 1st, 2009 05:27 pm
Today, I have played no practical jokes.  I have engaged in no hoaxes.  I have been responsible for no gags.

But I did engage in a nefarious scheme.  In collusion with one of my roommates this morning, I plotted against my boyfriend.  Knowing that he had stated an extreme dislike for a certain food, and an unwillingness to even try said food, we hatched a master plan against him: I would make the food for myself at a time when he was in the house and would be able to smell it cooking.

I did so early this evening.  With the desired result:  "Wow, that actually smells really good."  "Would you like to try some after all?"  "Sure!"

My boyfriend now likes MY meatloaf.

He says that doesn't count as an April Fools joke.  I'm counting it anyway. :)
Wednesday, April 1st, 2009 10:34 pm (UTC)
Having tasted your cooking, I can safely guess that your meatloaf is good too. Glad to hear it was a hit!
Wednesday, April 1st, 2009 10:42 pm (UTC)
Meatloaf was actually one of the very first dishes I learned to cook, after which point my family liked my changes to the recipe so much that I officially took over all future meatloaf making for family dinners. I didn't quite have all of the ingredients I usually use (I was out of grated parmesan cheese, most significantly), and it's been quite a while since I last made it, but I have to say making it reminded me just how much I LOVE good meatloaf.
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Wednesday, April 1st, 2009 11:01 pm (UTC)
... and when I tell you that I make something good and that you should try it sometime, your response in the future will be? ;-)

Then I won't have to be sneaky about it. :)
Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 01:16 am (UTC)
Gods, you two are so adorable :D

And now I have to wonder how your recipe compares with the one me and [livejournal.com profile] dark_harvest use. :3 (Of note, Nightstorm uses a variation in that it's not pure beef--usually it's a mix of pork sausage and beef (sage sausage is really good for this), or--when we up and spring for it--a 50/50 mix of good, fresh pork sausage and ground bison.)

I've never heard of using Parmesan cheese in meatloaf before, though--this sounds interesting and has me intrigued. :3
Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 07:22 am (UTC)
I use all beef in mine... usually as lean as I can get, but in this case I just went with the cheapest ground packaged for making into hamburger patties. Here's basically the full recipe:

2lbs ground beef (pref lean)
3 large eggs
1 and 1/2 cups fine dry Progresso Italian-Style breadcrumbs
1/2 cup dried minced onion (onion flakes)

Defrost the meat, crack the eggs, mix everything together. And I can't stress this part enough: use your hands to mix everything very VERY thoroughly. The goal is to get all of the ingredients distributed as homogeniously as possible throughout the meat. I have sat and done this for up to an hour before.

Now, to taste, add:

Ketchup (generally at least an amount equal to one egg)
Paprika
Celery Salt
Garlic Salt
Oregano
Dill Weed
Grated Parmesan Cheese (the dry kind that goes on spaghetti traditionally)

A lot of other spices can work here too. Don't go too overboard on how much you use, but remember you are making two whole pounds of meat.

Mix things together. You want the end result to be in a fine area between starting to become sticky and between being a little crunchy from the dry ingredients. You can add more ketchup to make it less dry, and more breadcrumbs or parmesan to make it more dry, until you find a good balance. Remember to thoroughly mix all of these seasonings in too... you want every one of them to permeate every part of the meat in an even distribution.

Take the meat and form it into a loaf or ring. A ring generally cooks better. Put it in a large pan or oven-safe casserole dish. Slather a light but thorough layer of ketchup over the surface of the meat, covering all areas of it (including between the pan and the meat). You're basically greasing it up with the ketchup to keep the surface from drying out while you cook it.

Bake in the oven on 350 for about 45 minutes. With the ketchup coating it has a tendency to stay looking pink even when it's done, so you'll have to cut into it to really see if it's done. You don't want to see any pink left inside the center of the cut.

And that's how I make meatloaf. :) You can also make it into patties instead of a ring and make VERY tasty hamburger this way. :)
Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 01:59 pm (UTC)
That's very close to mine. :) The parm so makes it.

1.5 lb lean ground beef
1. lb pork
1 lb ground veal (use non tortured baby cow meat)
Cup of parm (large handful)
breadcrumbs
an egg
salt, pepper, garlic, finely chopped vidalia onion (use food processor), bit of ketchup

This is all sorta seasoned to taste and utilized to bind.
If you want to go a little extra, moisten your breadcrumbs with buttermilk beforehand. Then make the loaf.

Line your pan with day old bread, btw, beforehand. This absorbs all the grease and keeps your loaf nice and from being icky. Especially necessary when using pork and veal. You may also have to cook it longer than an hour at 375 to achieve doneness.

On the last 30 mins of cooking, you can also brush the top with a mixture of ketchup and bbq sauce. It's awesome.

I love meatloaf.

Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 05:21 pm (UTC)
Yeah, the parm was the addition that made my family nominate me for making it in the future. Meatloaf was the first recipe I ever felt comfortable enough making to experiment with like that.

I kinda want to try it with other ground meats, but I don't know a reasonably priced source for the meats I most want to try... venison and buffalo. At least not in the quantities necessary for meatloaf. Usually I'm lucky if I can find those in quantities sufficient for a couple of hamburgers.

Do you make yours into the traditional loaf or a ring? I find the ring cooks a lot faster and more evenly, plus it has less of a problem with the outside drying out before the inside is done. The loaf always seems to have that problem, though the ketchup layer I coat it with helps somewhat.

The very lean beef I normally get usually doesn't havea ton of grease as a problem, but that's a good idea for dealing with it if I use another type of meat. Heck, I could almost make a stuffing that way to go with it, instead of just plain bread. Stuffing and meatloaf would be an awesome combination...
Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 05:32 pm (UTC)
No man, the stuffing would not work. It would be disgusting. First of all, that's soaking up raw meat grease. Not. Good.
For good stuffing, fats to broth is the best bet, and not enough to make it mush or soggy, as this would do.

I have also found that even for the leanest meat, this will help make it a healthier meal and not dry it out. I'll have to try the ring idea.

Drying could be a temperature issue in your oven, methinks, or cooking it too high.

You can get 1lb of venison and 1lb buffalo, then cut it with 1lb of something else. I think that would work wonderfully, and buffalo is very lean. Do the bread trick. :)

Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 07:58 pm (UTC)
Unless you make stuffing in a pan completely seperate from the poultry or meat you're making it with, some absorbtion of pan drippings is pretty much inevitable. And the pan drippings don't seem to hurt anyone when made into gravy.

I also don't think that it's entirely raw meat grease. Generally there are just as much juices as grease in pan drippings, and pan drippings are quite commonly used in stuffing recipes. Some people specifically cook bacon to add the bacon drippings to their stuffing.

http://www.bigoven.com/86731-Fresh-Bread-Stuffing-recipe.html
http://chitterlings.com/turkey-and-dressing.html
http://www.slawek.com/news/article/rec.food.cooking/1561509

I'd be very surprised if the amount of drippings that came out of my 2lb meatloaf was more than the 3/4 cup of bacon drippings called for in the second recipe. The main issue I can see is that it may not absorb thoroughly during cooking the way the bacon drippings do when you mix them in before cooking. That'd be my main reservation with attempting the stuffing idea.

It may not be quite as healthy, but there's definitely a precedent for it. Enough so that some stuffing recipes today that are trying to be healthy but still want the taste of older recipes say to reserve between two and six tablespoons of pan drippings for use in stuffing and get rid of the rest, or even to wait for the fat to seperate from the pan drippings and use the "degreased" drippings while discarding the seperated fat. Adding the drippings to a broth and using it for stuffing would seem to fall into this category; basically trying to preserve the taste while reducing the amount of fat actually ingested. It seems based on older recipes that actually used the pan drippings directly.

Drying is an issue I've had in almost every oven I've cooked it in, and I always cook it at 350. This time I used the ring trick, and that seemed to really help with it rather than making it into one thick loaf.

I might go with the 1lb venison or buffalo and 1lb something else... dunno. Generally I don't go much for combining different types of meat. If I want a specific taste of meat, that's the only taste I want involved. But it does seem like the cost of venison and buffalo would make that prohibative.
Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 05:13 pm (UTC)
Oh, one thing I forgot to add: if you are as anal as me about mixing all of the ingredients thoroughly and do spend up to an hour mixing them by hand, sometimes this mixture of ingredients starts to turn orange. I'm not sure why that is, but it doesn't seem to adversely affect either the food or the people who eat the food in any way and it will come out of the oven back at a normal color. I suspect it's from a dye in the ketchup or something, but I'm not certain. It only happens if you spend a ridiculous amount of time kneading the meat like dough, as I often tend to do.
Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 05:30 pm (UTC)
No need to knead that long, actually. Just til it all comes together. Too much might start to affect consistancy of the loaf. But hey, if it works. And yeah. I've had the orange thing from the bit of ketchup and probably from the paprika as well.
Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 07:59 pm (UTC)
I've never had it affect the consistency, just the color. Freaked me out the first time it happened, but after that I started using it as a guide to when I had thoroughly mixed it. Didn't go that far with it this time, though, and it still turned out fine.
Wednesday, April 1st, 2009 11:52 pm (UTC)
Awww!!! That is so adorable!
Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 02:03 am (UTC)
I am intrigued... and now that I have an actual oven that actually works, I can actually make stuff again. (There, did I put enough actuals in?)

Could you post the recipe, please?
Thursday, April 2nd, 2009 10:46 pm (UTC)
Bwahaha, Ken is trying to get me to eat meatloaf too. His theory is that surely I can come up with a recipe that I would enjoy and stop me from calling it 'feetloaf' in the future. My mother's meatloaf could only be swallowed if you used enough mustard that you couldn't taste anything -but- mustard. I just refuse to cook it since (IME) it smells bad, and tastes worse. (I will at least cook pork chops, though I won't touch those, either.)
Friday, April 3rd, 2009 12:16 am (UTC)
Do you happen to know what recipe your mother used?
Friday, April 3rd, 2009 12:31 am (UTC)
I recall that it used cream of mushroom soup mixed in with the meat (normally I love cream of mushroom, but not in this incarnation), and I know the 'crust' had some kind of tomato-y flavour, which I thought was gross.

I also hated steak as a kid, which I now love after discovering that it doesn't have to be cooked to the consistency of boot leather (I like it pretty rare) and there are other things I'll eat as an adult that I like more when I can cook them my way, but I can't think of any way to 'redeem' meatloaf. I just don't think it's my kind of food. (I still won't eat pork chops mainly because I dislike fatty meat, and the recipe Ken prefers I use is the least likely of the two I know to convince me to try it.)
Friday, April 3rd, 2009 03:50 pm (UTC)
Cream of mushroom? Dude, that sounds completely disgusting. There are things I would use cream of mushroom soup to cook, but meatloaf is not one of them. Meatloaf should have more in common with a good hamburger than with a casserole.
Saturday, April 4th, 2009 12:28 am (UTC)
Yeah, but if I want something that tastes like a hamburger... I'll eat a hamburger. Not meatloaf. :)