I've decided to start archiving publicly the links that I've found to major onlist discussions and conflicts over HOPE in the past. This is an interim step to compiling a FAQ about that organization's history.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/25056 <- HOPE's own FAQ about themselves, written by RevJohn and posted by Silverfox in December, 2000.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/25215 <- My rebuttle of that FAQ.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/25217 <- Documents I posted publicly proving that HOPE was lying about certain things to the community.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/25338 <- Response by Cha'tai'naira, a morph account of Adara's who she claims is a hosted being but who writes using a very similar style to Silverfox and whom has previously employed others to clean up her text and mask it's energetic origins so that it wouldn't be traced back to Silverfox, something which would not be necessary for a truly hosted entity in my own experience.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/25355 <- My response to "Cha'tai'naira"'s accusations of illegal activity in obtaining those emails.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/49778 <- A discussion about HOPE in which I applied the criteria of the ABCDEF cult evaluation frame to HOPE based on my experiences with and knowledge of the organization's practices.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/53303 <- A more recent post by me about my experiences in HOPE and why HOPE and similar groups are a bad idea.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/54889 <- My latest public rebuttle to Silverfox concerning HOPE-related concerns.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/outlawkin/message/408 <- A reply by me on outlawkin in September of 2001 to a post by Silverfox, involving much discussion of HOPE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/outlawkin/message/615 <- A post by Silverfox inviting critics to join the HOPE message boards.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/outlawkin/message/616 <- A post by me noting that the message boards were mysteriously down due to technical difficulties immediately after that invitation was made.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/outlawkin/message/630 <- A post by Silverfox claiming that the technical difficulties were real.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/outlawkin/message/631 <- A reply by me that proved she was lying.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/outlawkin/message/633 <- Independent confirmation of that fact.
While neither of the lists involved in this post have public archives, Outlawkin is an open list and accepts anyone who wishes to join and I'm quite sure that the moderator of ER would be willing to allow people to join and see these archives for themselves as long as they were not disruptive to the list. (Right, Ri?)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/25056 <- HOPE's own FAQ about themselves, written by RevJohn and posted by Silverfox in December, 2000.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/25215 <- My rebuttle of that FAQ.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/25217 <- Documents I posted publicly proving that HOPE was lying about certain things to the community.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/25338 <- Response by Cha'tai'naira, a morph account of Adara's who she claims is a hosted being but who writes using a very similar style to Silverfox and whom has previously employed others to clean up her text and mask it's energetic origins so that it wouldn't be traced back to Silverfox, something which would not be necessary for a truly hosted entity in my own experience.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/25355 <- My response to "Cha'tai'naira"'s accusations of illegal activity in obtaining those emails.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/49778 <- A discussion about HOPE in which I applied the criteria of the ABCDEF cult evaluation frame to HOPE based on my experiences with and knowledge of the organization's practices.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/53303 <- A more recent post by me about my experiences in HOPE and why HOPE and similar groups are a bad idea.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/elven-realities/message/54889 <- My latest public rebuttle to Silverfox concerning HOPE-related concerns.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/outlawkin/message/408 <- A reply by me on outlawkin in September of 2001 to a post by Silverfox, involving much discussion of HOPE
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/outlawkin/message/615 <- A post by Silverfox inviting critics to join the HOPE message boards.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/outlawkin/message/616 <- A post by me noting that the message boards were mysteriously down due to technical difficulties immediately after that invitation was made.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/outlawkin/message/630 <- A post by Silverfox claiming that the technical difficulties were real.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/outlawkin/message/631 <- A reply by me that proved she was lying.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/outlawkin/message/633 <- Independent confirmation of that fact.
While neither of the lists involved in this post have public archives, Outlawkin is an open list and accepts anyone who wishes to join and I'm quite sure that the moderator of ER would be willing to allow people to join and see these archives for themselves as long as they were not disruptive to the list. (Right, Ri?)
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